tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post4794443586055274835..comments2016-08-20T19:14:01.630+01:00Comments on naijablog: Chiefs Glover and WhitakerJeremynoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-14164104161802231112009-04-11T10:50:00.000+01:002009-04-11T10:50:00.000+01:00They look really good.@nneoma"I am thinking of ado...They look really good.<BR/><BR/>@nneoma<BR/>"I am thinking of adopting one myself - Ogbu Oke I of Umuawa Alaocha....killer of rats"<BR/><BR/>*rolling on floor despite just showering*pamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06599257710002007601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-19046772421321639262009-04-11T00:35:00.000+01:002009-04-11T00:35:00.000+01:00British (Lordship &amp; Ladyship title) Peerage an...British (Lordship &amp; Ladyship title) Peerage and Baronetage are legally bought and sold for cash. I am all for any money making schemes that puts American dollars in the pockets of our unelected underpaid traditional rulers. For God&#39;s sake there&#39;s a recession in Naija and Oba&#39;s and Obi&#39;s have to feed their many wives and dozens of children and put petrol in their Morris Minor.SECRET DIARYhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02857851104707417042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-66141436204439755452009-04-10T18:04:00.000+01:002009-04-10T18:04:00.000+01:00first time hearing the comparison to honorary degr...first time hearing the comparison to honorary degrees, but i guess that would be an apt description.<BR/><BR/>As for pre-colonial/early colonial times, I believe that, at least in the area that I am from, titles were rewarded based on acts (rather than on how much money you can provide for the ceremony). For example, some people took titles in their communities based on various animals they killed, physical strength and the like. Personally, I think the word chieftancy is a misnomer in that many of these titles do not confer much authority, especially considering the more egalitarian political systems espoused by the majority of Igbo groups way back when. Even titles that do convey some authority (Eze or Igwe aka King) are largely a modern creation because for many Igbo communities, there is a saying that "Ndi Igbo enweghi eze" - the Igbos do not have kings....I could go on....but I guess, culture is all about change and I guess what's in vogue now is meaningless titles. In fact, I am thinking of adopting one myself - Ogbu Oke I of Umuawa Alaocha....killer of rats....since I've done a pretty good job of ridding my apartment of these pests in the past month....such a title is probably more valid than ones people adopt these days that suggest that they done some great thing for their community when in fact they have not.....nneomahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03116013790446026291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-39276623141597798242009-04-10T04:05:00.000+01:002009-04-10T04:05:00.000+01:00Go timbuktu media !( just saw the NEXT interview )...Go timbuktu media !<BR/>( just saw the NEXT interview )Olunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-34521432794850479342009-04-09T22:59:00.000+01:002009-04-09T22:59:00.000+01:00Is it that hard to grasp? It's like honorary degre...Is it that hard to grasp? It's like honorary degrees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-33745889862058730242009-04-09T22:32:00.000+01:002009-04-09T22:32:00.000+01:00Hi Jeremy,All Chieftancy titles are meaningful. T...Hi Jeremy,<BR/><BR/>All Chieftancy titles are meaningful. They all come with a commitment to the community. <BR/><BR/>In the absence of the actual acting Chief(s) [or in very important matters that concern/affect the whole community; e.g natural disaster], the honourary Chiefs are supposed to come to the aid of the community. All the Chiefs are supposed to be influential members in the community. It is a truly honorable tradition. Of course, there are Chiefs who abuse this position for their personal advancement etc. but the tradition and its value supercedes the "fake" Chiefs. There has been some distortion but the value to the community is still there. I hope Chiefs Glover and Whitaker do not neglect their duties if ever it becomes needed in the community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-10528201669800255102009-04-09T22:18:00.000+01:002009-04-09T22:18:00.000+01:00Hi,This is a valuable tradition. The Cheiftancy t...Hi,<BR/><BR/>This is a valuable tradition. The Cheiftancy title is an honorable one and yes, there is a distinction between acting Chiefs and honorary Chiefs. This is another case of &quot;Lost in Translation&quot;. There is no real way to always effectively translate the distinction &amp; some people (honorary chiefs) have used this to their advantage. The whole thing IS based on community and strengthening the community. If there was a situation that went beyond the Chiefs ability (e.g. natural disaster, or some other distruption to the community), all the Chiefs both active and honorary can be leaned on to support the community. That is why the distinction is not made explicitly. Unfortunately in an increasingly globalized world, loyalty is going out the window. Lots of Chiefs are not performing their duties. It will be interesting to see if Glover and Whitaker would actually come to the aid of their people at their time of need (if it ever came to that). <BR/><BR/>It&#39;s tough to explain. Basically, corruption plagued the institution but the value in the institution far outweighs the corruption of a few &quot;fake&quot; Chiefs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-2561238959134335732009-04-09T20:51:00.000+01:002009-04-09T20:51:00.000+01:00There's a nice book called 'Nkrumah and the chiefs...There's a nice book called 'Nkrumah and the chiefs' by Richard Rathbone that's a historical, Ghanaian take on your questions.<BR/><BR/>If memory serves, he basically argues that chieftaincy is a really varied institution. There are examples of pretty much every combination of purely ceremonial/powerful, historical/'invented tradition', consultative/tyrannical, well-educated/illiterate and so on.Petehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17236753667595359448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-54443664019612596702009-04-09T20:23:00.000+01:002009-04-09T20:23:00.000+01:00Jeremy, as someone already pointed out, some are m...Jeremy, as someone already pointed out, some are meant to be honorary, others have a real meaning. MKO Abiola held several honorary titles. <BR/><BR/>However, he was also Aareonakankanfo of Yorubaland. OBJ wanted this title, but out of respect for MKO Abiola, the post has since been vacant.<BR/><BR/>In my humble opinion, the sooner we get away with this sort of insanity (Chief this, Chief Otuba that), the better for out country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-64325528104740272352009-04-09T16:27:00.000+01:002009-04-09T16:27:00.000+01:00It depends, some chieftancy titles are really mean...It depends, some chieftancy titles are really meant for rulers and what not, some are just honorary. the honorary ones might be to celebrate someone who has done good in a community or that is well respected.Thisgirlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11485590117605048610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-50985064793974315362009-04-09T16:26:00.000+01:002009-04-09T16:26:00.000+01:00sorry, meant to say becoming an MBEsorry, meant to say becoming an MBEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-63287522107029196322009-04-09T15:56:00.000+01:002009-04-09T15:56:00.000+01:00seems like it's not very different from becoming a...seems like it's not very different from becoming an . they jsut give it to people of some reputeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com