tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post8142871027115831824..comments2014-08-13T13:14:14.054+01:00Jeremy[email protected]Blogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-48620557943712163342010-01-31T20:44:10.130+01:002010-01-31T20:44:10.130+01:00The Bible condemns homosexuality and condones masters owning slaves thus I feel the white folks were very justified in their making slaves of we africans! But then it was abolished.<br /><br />Get your head out of your ass. Some of us just pick certain parts of the bible to torment others.Free Surf[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-39301752164843232012008-06-24T19:22:00.000+01:002008-06-24T19:22:00.000+01:00Hello People, what an amazing variation of comments, I am Rev Rowland Jide Macaulay, I am the pastor of House Of Rainbow MCC church in Lagos. Thus far many people in Nigeria believe it is impossible to be gay and a Christian, I have come to trust God and lead a God centred life and also help my fellow brothers and sisters who are either gay or not find the inclusive gospel of the love of Jesus. I call myself the happy holy homosexual, because my bible is filled with acceptance and not condemnation, love not rejection. I want to invite as many people to our church programme to join us in praising and worshipping God, just call +234 (0)805 256 7170, or email [email protected], my blog for other topics is revrowlandjidemacaulay.blogspot.com or houseofrainbowmcc.blogspot.com.Rev Rowland Jide Macaulayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09253214010143460344[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-17485479443292247652008-05-01T16:59:00.000+01:002008-05-01T16:59:00.000+01:00Heterosexuality is not natural...<BR/><BR/>There are several evidences for this:<BR/><BR/>But first of all, let's decide what is heterosexuality? Is it what the West defines it as...<BR/><BR/>West says Heterosexuality is sexuality between man and woman. But, then what makes a man heterosexual. If I have romantic relationship with a guy, but also do it with a woman once or twice in a lifetime, does that make me a heterosexual? I am sure not.<BR/><BR/>And then, whey wasn't there any terms like Heterosexuality or Heterosexuals before the modern West invented these words. Men in non-Western countries still largely don't relate wtih these terms and concepts. E.g. in non-Westernised India, if you called someone a Heterosexual, and explained him what it means, chances are that he will bash you up.<BR/><BR/>Heterosexuality is a totally modern Western concept, that signifies sexual bonding between man and women, on the assumption that they are the same. It also signifies the breaking away of man-woman relationship from the responsibility of procreation and the burdern of marriage. Thus it signifies casual male-female sexuality.<BR/><BR/>However, if you look at nature, there is hardly any heterosexuality amongst mammals. There is male-female sex, but:<BR/>- It only happens in certain seasons, like once a year or once in three years, depending upon the species.<BR/>- It is only related to procreation. Males and females seek out each other for sex only when they need to reproduce.<BR/>- Their sexual relationship is limited to the act of ejaculation, and the two depart after that, often never to meet each other. There is no emotional bonding between the opposite sexes, amongst mammals, at least not of a sexual/ romantic nature.<BR/>- Males and females lead, for the most part separate lives. <BR/>- Only a few males in any particular mating season are interested in mating with females.<BR/>- Typically, a male mates with a female only towards the latter part of his adulthood, and often only a couple of times in his entire life.<BR/>- A large percentage of males choose never to mate at all.<BR/><BR/>In contrast, there is widespread bonding between males amongst mammals. The following are some other interesting facts:<BR/>- In mammals, males and females lead separate lives.<BR/>- Sex between males is almost a universal phenomenon amongst mammalian males.<BR/>- Mammalian Males often develop lifelong committed bonds with each other, and these bonds have a strong sexual element. In other words, romantic bonds, amongst mammals, occur only amongst males or amongst females, but hardly ever between opposite sexes. (please refer to researches by Bruce Bagemihl, Johann Roughgarden, etc.) It's been the same with human societies, before the advent of Christianity.<BR/><BR/>In fact, any sensible person not brainwashed by Christianity from childhood would know that if there's any thing unnatural in this world, it is Christianity. But its very powerful, because of its criminally violent nature.Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-59182887731925284392008-04-05T10:37:00.000+01:002008-04-05T10:37:00.000+01:00@Anonymous 1.20pm, rectal/anal sex and homosexuality, are not one and the same thing.Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-26297252336041928612008-04-03T13:20:00.000+01:002008-04-03T13:20:00.000+01:00homosexual lifestyle has serious health hazards<BR/><BR/>RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily sexual diaries,3 gays averaged 110 sex partners and 68 rectal encounters a year.<BR/><BR/>Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum becomes a mixing bowl for 1) saliva and its germs and/or an artificial lubricant, 2) the recipient's own feces, 3) whatever germs, infections or substances the penis has on it, and 4) the seminal fluid of the inserter. Since sperm readily penetrate the rectal wall (which is only one cell thick) causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of the anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these substances gain almost direct access to the blood stream. Unlike heterosexual intercourse (in which sperm cannot penetrate the multilayered vagina and no feces are present),7 rectal intercourse is probably the most sexually efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host of other blood-borne diseases.<BR/><BR/>Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with "fisting," where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum. It is also common when "toys" are employed (homosexual lingo for objects which are inserted into the rectum--bottles, carrots, even gerbils8). The risk of contamination and/or having to wear a colostomy bag from such "sport" is very real. Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey's time that he didn't think to talk about it. By 1977, well over a third of gays admitted to doing it. The rectum was not designed to accommodate the fist, and those who do so can find themselves consigned to diapers for life.<BR/><BR/>You can find more info here...<BR/>http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet3.html<BR/><BR/>Homosexuality should not be endorsed. we have enough problems in naija already<BR/><BR/>SassycassieAnonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-4133486374868926652008-04-02T00:06:00.000+01:002008-04-02T00:06:00.000+01:00@Anonymous called Emeka: Hee Hee! It's NECROPHILIACS not NECROMANCERS!! Nearly pissed my panties when I read that one. A Necromancer is a sorcerer that raises spirits from the dead to do his bidding.<BR/><BR/>A Necrophiliac is someone that enjoys sex with dead things (eeeeeeewwwwww and triple ewwwwwwwwwww and tufiakwa to them!! eeeeeeeee!!)Sugabellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17943638849867603413[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-15049120412941312692008-03-28T12:41:00.000+01:002008-03-28T12:41:00.000+01:00Damn!<BR/>I don't think I have ever seen written violence before now.tobennahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16019398627142150694[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-28390833921606231312008-03-27T17:01:00.000+01:002008-03-27T17:01:00.000+01:00relationships are the same everywhere. Its no different form life itself.<BR/><BR/>i think the issue here is accepting other peoples choices on how they live and who they love.<BR/><BR/>download the link<BR/><BR/>http://www.switchedonnaija.com/view_feature.php3?featureID=220&ID=5&refer=indexAnonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-29225701335501274312008-03-25T18:57:00.000+01:002008-03-25T18:57:00.000+01:00If we Africans are to develop as Africans in an African society, such development will have to follow the route which all other successfully developing societies outside the West, have followed. Africans will have to trust their own genius and adapt modern, Western rationality and secularism, into an overwhelmingly African socio-cultural base. We must seek to remain faithful to ourselves, speak for ourselves and act single-mindedly in our enlightened self-interest. We must detach ourselves from such alien notions as homophobia, which have been reinforced in our consciousness by religious beliefs that are alien to our societies, and therefore to our continent.Anengiyefahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12680156670687593504[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-42827763697423318842008-03-25T02:46:00.000+01:002008-03-25T02:46:00.000+01:00Good luck to him, I really mean that. If I had a gay brother I would not let him go to that church, too public, it'd be like shooting fish in a barrel.Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-62183744268791274402008-03-21T21:59:00.000+01:002008-03-21T21:59:00.000+01:00Well, all kinds of comments. Whatever anybody thinks, gay people need help because such acts are unnatural.<BR/>I challenge the character behind the Rainbow Church to tell us that he is not using it as a screen to make some hard currency from around the world, pretending to be providing a cover for gay people. That's a fad in Nigeria. Just create a problem, set up an NGO and look for grants from around the world.<BR/>It's a thriving business and the Rainbow guy is just one of these fraudsters. Gay people are persons who have been unable to control the person inside them.<BR/>One day, somebody might wake up and tell us that paedophiles, rapists, necromancers and all such wierd people should be allowed to do what they like. Afterall, it's a free world.<BR/>Shame to all of you promoting lesbianisim and homosexuality. After promoting it, what next? U end up frustrated copycats of stupid western madness.<BR/>Shame.<BR/>EmekaAnonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-9860339006246429502008-03-20T14:51:00.000+01:002008-03-20T14:51:00.000+01:00Na war for some people o. I'm sick and tired of people using the Bible to promote their hate and ignorance. The Bible was written ages ago within a certain cultural context with the values and sentiments of that time. <BR/><BR/>Anonymous, how would you like it if white people continued to use the bible to justify colonialisation and slavery. They used to until slavery was abolished, you know. And some die- hard racists still believe even today that blacks are from the cursed race of Ham. Remember that story in the bible about the cursed race of Ham?<BR/><BR/>Why don't concern yourself with the real ills of society like child rituals and killings. Now we all know how abhorrent and distasteful THAT is. <BR/><BR/>It is a shame that Nigeria as a nation concerns itself with all manners of religious bigotry and phony righteousness while it does very little to deal with the real ills of society - the endemic corruption and 'get-rich-by-all- means' tendencies that lead to numerous atrocities and ritual killings. GET REAL, 'anonymous' and other naijas like you!naija1sthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09467664797856391600[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-60951335566862642282008-03-19T19:51:00.000+01:002008-03-19T19:51:00.000+01:00Thanks for posting this story, it's clearly created some intriguing discussion. In the end though, I always wish that societies in general could be a bit more tolerant of certain people's lifestyles. I think in regards to this subject, individuals should have the choice and the freedom to do what makes them happy, as long as that freedom doesn't infringe on the rights of others.Victoriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02949860238411636683[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-17194980176339014062008-03-19T15:52:00.000+01:002008-03-19T15:52:00.000+01:00@omidanbellafricaine: My response to you below:<BR/><BR/>@ Jide should I empathize with anti gay people? They absolutely do not empathize with my opinions where's the reciprocity in that?<BR/><BR/>>>><BR/>please note I used the word 'empathise' in quotes. Nevertheless, you miss the point-the immediate issue at debate is focused on people/religious people who oppose homosexuality. Your description of everyone who may not exactly be approving of homosexuality as 'anti-gay' goes to the heart of the issue-that term immediately connotes hatefulness and a desire to criminalise-which is baseless-the issues are far more subtle than that in the minds of a lot of people-they feel it's wrong and would, for example, be embarrassed to discover their kid was dating someone of the same sex(fact is, it's a tabboo in a lot of communnities esp here in Nigeria whether rightly or wrongly-) but they wouldn't go as far as wanting it criminialised or wanting gays lynched in public -they'd be willing to look away. Is this what you describe as anti-gay? That's knee-jerk defensiveness and fails to appreciate the fact that the gay movement challenges years and years of tradition. And lets be clear, the stakes are raised when the issue is challenging the definition of marriage and not just whether 2 adults of the same sex have a right to do whatever in the privacy of their room-it is you who make it an issue for public debate by seeking to redefine the institution of marriage.<BR/><BR/>2. Do you know of any conclusive evidence that states that heterosexuality is 'natural'?<BR/>>>>oh, you think heterosexuality is unnatural? I assumed everyone knew about the procreative impulse which drives much of our sexuality-psyhologists, anthropologists, biologists etc have intervened on this issue over and over again. The issue of evidence comes up only because gay marriage advocates have argued that it's 'not a choice but nature' and there's been some attempt at explaining it genetically-it has been a strong basis for the anti-discrimination campaign. Pls notice most of the laws against discrimination are about factors in a person's life which they've had little or no say on i.e race, gender, nationality, disability etc Some have argued that homosexuality cannot be equated with that because its a choice, a chosen alternative lifestyle. This has been a fundamental point in the debate which is yet to be fully resolved but my point was that gay advocates have largely carried on as though the question's been fully resolved-not so.<BR/><BR/><BR/>3. Do you really think moral, historical, and cultural factors can effectively define our laws in an age where there those factors are extensively varied?<BR/>>>>but they already do-legal tradition across the world is based on broad principles from hundreds and hundreds of years ago-even the idea of democratic freedoms-ever heard of the magna carta? It's the broad principles we are talking about here-so what's your point exactly?<BR/>It's precisely because of such anarchistic reasoning whch seeks to disingenously challenge every known norm and tradition that a lot of people are hostile to the gay movement. Would you agree it's unnatural for a father to sleep with his 18 year old daughter(not rape, consensually)? Is there any evidence that this is unnatural? Does the lack of empirical evidence make it right? Are laws against it not based on the supposition, by observing people, general patterns of behaviour etc that it's not rightor at least aceptable? Or a brother and sister? There are laws based on what you may call time-tested 'assumptions' on rightness and wrongness or just simply how society has chosen to conduct its affairs in certain areas such that without an overwhelming reason(such as discovering a gay gene), it becomes difficult to overturn such settled traditions. <BR/><BR/><BR/>4. How would anti gay laws in nigeria benefit nigeria as a whole? I have heard the "common good" argument so many times and what it essentially means is that the gay minority has to do what the straight majority wants in other not to discomfort the majority (that has selfishness written all over it)<BR/>>>> Please tell me where exactly i advocated the anti-gay bill? Matter of fact is, I think its unecessary,silly and a misplacement of priorities<BR/><BR/><BR/>5. Finally have you ever had your sexuality questioned morally, historically, and culturally by queer people? If not why scrutinize theirs. please answer the following questions<BR/>>>of course they are free to question it. In fact I suggest to the gay movement to introduce a counter bill to ban heterosexual marriage. They are free to call for a referendum across the world.jide[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-65306251061566309242008-03-19T14:33:00.000+01:002008-03-19T14:33:00.000+01:00Dearest Sandrine love, Wikipedia is not a source for any serious person. Any fool can edit it.<BR/><BR/>It may be accurate (and it most often is), but the fact that anyone with a keyboard can edit it dissolves any credibility for any serious researcher.<BR/><BR/>Sorry to break it to you: 5% of Nigeria's population is NOT homo. Geez!Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-1501429704660797492008-03-19T01:10:00.000+01:002008-03-19T01:10:00.000+01:00yawn....Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-12231635416948176252008-03-18T23:49:00.000+01:002008-03-18T23:49:00.000+01:00Charles Lambert, you are a gay white man who lives in Italy..... <BR/>You are obviously deluded and think that by insulting me you somehow change the facts of homosexuality.<BR/><BR/>I don't recall addressing you in any of my comments. Also maybe aside from being deluded, you are confused..... who is name calling here?<BR/>My dear little confused man, I have every right on earth to decide for myself what feel about anything! And so do you! If you feel that there is nothing wrong with being homosexual, then please be my guest... but stop attacking folks who have a different opinion<BR/><BR/>Geez, you homo's are a rabid lot!Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-78022334428579407342008-03-18T23:36:00.000+01:002008-03-18T23:36:00.000+01:00Aside from the bible not endorsing homosexuality, it is not natural or normal for two people of the same sex to have a sexual relationship..... <BR/><BR/>Aberration , Abomination , disgusting,Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-8290294420912793672008-03-18T23:25:00.000+01:002008-03-18T23:25:00.000+01:00@ Waffarian<BR/><BR/>On my own behalf of course, and any like minded pro family individuals.<BR/><BR/>It's funny.... your comments are bristling with hate and annoyance.<BR/>Whereas mine just state what I feel about homosexuality.... no hate!<BR/>Who's a hater here?<BR/>I am a christian and these are my beliefs, you are free to have yours.<BR/><BR/>For your information, homosexuality was previously thought to be a mental disorder.... through time and with great imput and financing by the powerful gay lobby, which controls the media, the message is now that homosexuality is just an alternative lifestyle. Unfortunately the youth are the ones being misled by this misinformation!<BR/><BR/>What a shame!Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-4443671159155339322008-03-18T23:14:00.000+01:002008-03-18T23:14:00.000+01:00@ Sandrine,<BR/>I don't think you should take statistics from Wikepedia lol!<BR/><BR/>Gays are not 5% of the population. No where in the world are such statistics recorded.... and certainly not in Nigeria.Anonymous[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-66437923657615489702008-03-18T20:40:00.000+01:002008-03-18T20:40:00.000+01:00To Anon 4:40 p.m.<BR/>Gays are not a small minority.Considering that they are probably around 5% of any population (from Wikipedia) and knowing that Nigeria has about 145 million people, they are about 7 millions.<BR/>SandrineSandrinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01142232421649134500[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-12335493672949434732008-03-18T10:01:00.000+01:002008-03-18T10:01:00.000+01:00@ Jide should I empathize with anti gay people? They absolutely do not empathize with my opinions where's the reciprocity in that?<BR/><BR/>2. Do you know of any conclusive evidence that states that heterosexuality is 'natural'?<BR/><BR/>3. Do you really think moral, historical, and cultural factors can effectively define our laws in an age where there those factors are extensively varied?<BR/><BR/>4. How would anti gay laws in nigeria benefit nigeria as a whole? I have heard the "common good" argument so many times and what it essentially means is that the gay minority has to do what the straight majority wants in other not to discomfort the majority (that has selfishness written all over it)<BR/><BR/>5. Finally have you ever had your sexuality questioned morally, historically, and culturally by queer people? If not why scrutinize theirs. please answer the following questions<BR/>1. whyomidanbellafricainehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06922049364473945647[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-34735750529760774002008-03-18T03:16:00.000+01:002008-03-18T03:16:00.000+01:00@anonymous-your argument against homosexuality based on the mechanics of homosexual sex is a little embarrasing to other christians who may share your opinion in principle and there's no need to pontificate on the assumption that every one believes in the bible.<BR/>Having said that, it might also help to 'empathise' with a lot of religious folk in their opposition to homosexuality. We can debate this without the hateful language some of you hypocritically employ in condeming anon's 'hatefulness'.<BR/>Fact is that homosexuality is fundamentally seen as an aberration by a lot of religious folk-and please don't rush to judge that opinion as uncivilised-because open support for homosexuality is 1. a fairly recent thing 2. That opinion agrees with years and years of legal tradition 3.While it may be debatable where the burden of proof lies here, there really is no conclusive evidence that homosexuality is 'natural' (in the class of some disability which people need to be protected for) 4. In the broad framework of legality,the fact that there are often moral, historical and cultural factors that play in framing laws is established and I think a basic consideration behind every law is what works in the interest of the society or the common good-this is a complex issue and simplistic answers must be avoided.Over the years, framers of the law have had to make their judgement on issues based on these factors in what may seem an arbitrary manner-setting 16 or 18 as the age of consent in a lot of countries, prohibiting incestuous relationships etcjide[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-78604688143563291462008-03-17T23:46:00.000+01:002008-03-17T23:46:00.000+01:00@anonymous: Why on earth would I want to use quotations from the Bible to support an argument? I am not so narrow minded as to believe that the Bible is the truth for every single human being in this world. However, please feel free to use quotations for your own argument. <BR/><BR/>Now, if you read my earlier comment, I made no mention of christianity in relation to homosexuals. Once again, I'll have to admit that I do not care if you or a homosexual claim to be a christian. You can worship mammy water for all I care. It is none of my business.<BR/><BR/>You on the other hand, seem to care so much about what others do or do not do in their lives. You ask if I am gay, is that important to you? How does is affect your life in any way?<BR/><BR/>Yes, I am very passionate about LOVE. That is the only truth in this world that is worth anything. You say "We cannot live in this world and accept every depraved act because some very small minority say it comes naturally to them". If I may ask, on whose behalf are you accepting or not accepting? <BR/><BR/>You are a christian. You believe in God, then trust him to accept or not.It is not your place as a human being to dictate who gets to be accepted in this world or not. The truth is, you are not important at all. I am very sure, on "the last day", he will definitely not call you up to ask for your very special advice.Waffarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06039619178621668954[email protected]tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8686769.post-81544356762686080632008-03-17T23:11:00.000+01:002008-03-17T23:11:00.000+01:00Bisola, my take on this is that those responsible for the focus on gay men, are often supposedly heterosexual men who are not secure in their heterosexuality. They havn't been brave enough to accept their own homosexual feelings, and therefore feel threatened by those other men who have grabbed the horns of the bull, and shed the heterosexual mask altogether. <BR/><BR/>This is why I think people like Anonymous sound as hysterical as they seem to do. Listening to them, you would think that homosexuals are on the verge of completely taking over our society. The truth is homosexuality is as old as the human race, and the heterosexual majority have never been worse off because of homosexuality. It was found in almost every major African ethnic group that we know of, through all of the history we know of. <BR/><BR/>There is a lie in scholarship based on two false assumptions in anthropology: <BR/>(1) the false assumption that savage or primitive people know nothing about homosexuality; and <BR/>(2) the false assumption that Africans were savage or primitive. <BR/><BR/>Where there was clear and indisputable evidence of African homosexuality, anthropologists had to invent excuses in order to save these false assumptions, and that is what they did. The first excuse was that Africans learned homosexuality from the Arabs. Then the excuse was that Africans learned homosexuality by hustling Europeans. Anthropologists said homosexuality was only a corruption practiced by the overly rich chiefs. Then they said that poor people practiced homosexuality because the overly rich chiefs had monopolized all of the women. They said it was only youthful high spirits; the African was not really homosexual; he was just real drunk last night. Every excuse you are likely to hear from a deep closet case was used by Euro-American academics in the attempt to explain away the facts<BR/><BR/>In reality, few of the societies of Africa could be called savage or primitive, but all over the world, even those people who might fairly be called savage or primitive are perfectly familiar with homosexuality. Homosexuality is not the white man's way. It is the way of gay people of all colours and nations, of all places and times.Anengiyefahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12680156670687593504[email protected]