Damn those skype people are wizards in the art of data compression. I had my first video-skype conversation today with a mate in the UK (using my Macbook with built-in camera and the Beta version of videoskype for OSX). Even at a measly 50 or so kps, we were getting maybe 15 frames-per-second video contact. Can't wait to get my folks back home sorted with a web camera so we can have full audio-visual contact. Once you've done audio-video voip, a plain old voice-voice conversation seems two dimensional.